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    • First aiders needed for the PG Festival
    • It’s worth highlighting the “why”: The British Red Cross had supported festival in previous years (paid basis) but, “Due to a constant high demand and ever-rising costs associated with providing first aid, the charity now has to be very selective in terms of the events that we agree to cover, and regrettably these smaller events have been assessed to not be the most cost-effective use of our limited resources.” So it’s not to be in 2018 and a little last minute for us to work with. An approach has been made to St John Ambulance, but their decision is not possible until incredibly close to festival itself. Other volunteers of a less specific skill requirement also always welcome for the day. Simply use the contact section on the festival web site.
    • In Other Subjects / Palmers Green Community Festival
    • Author Karl Brown
    • 10 Aug 2018 14:00
    • Help Romeo survey the changing cultural landscape
    • Hi Sheila, it might be a couple of examples where google maps has it wrong then (ref closures listed). Alderman's Hill florist was one example, no point referring to a business (Igham Flowers) that doesn't exist, when discussing a retail parade. It will be seen and known as Pomegranate Flowers (which is fabulous, by the way, got a great Xmas tree from there!). Very interesting thesis though, wish him best of luck with it.
    • In Other Subjects / Miscellaneous
    • Author David Eden
    • 10 Aug 2018 12:32
    • Help Romeo survey the changing cultural landscape
    • David thank you for completing the survey, I passed your comments onto my son. His response was: "I am confident that all the shops, restaurants and places of worship are current as I checked them physically and online. The previous businesses are in most cases now closed. Two examples are slightly different: Ingham Flowers had two premises side by side and relinquished just one to the Polski Sklep; and a florist retained the second premises and is there today under a different guise (Pomegranate). The second is the restaurant Aksular which extended its premises by taking over the hairdressers, Headstart. Palmers Green is known for its diverse ethnicity, and my fieldwork is looking into the changing migration patterns as reflected in the cultural landscape of shops, restaurants and places of worship, and how the changes are perceived by the residents. Once again, thank you for your participation"
    • In Other Subjects / Miscellaneous
    • Author Sheila Fahy
    • 10 Aug 2018 10:20
    • Last chance for Govia?
    • Just to show there is nothing new under the sun I am attaching a poster from a campaign back in 1999 when Thameslink were having a load of problems running a proper service. This was on the line from West Hampstead to Luton or into town.
    • In Other Subjects / Public Transport
    • Author Neil Littman
    • 10 Aug 2018 09:18
    • Last chance for Govia?
    • Thanks for the link to that speech: it is interesting that the Minister, in his response, was receptive to potentially making part of the GN franchise a part of TfL overground instead. I am in the fortunate position of being able to do a lot of my work from home, and so with an annual season ticket at £40 short of £2,000 now, I have cancelled mine and am now working 2 days (at least) from home, using pay as you go when I venture into zone 1. One thing I have now realised is that travelling on a mainline train from Palmers Green is £2 extra per day compared with going from a zone 4 underground station. , so on the one hand my cancellation is another tiny reduction in TfL income, but with the regular (daily?) delays on Great Northern (14 minutes yesterday, 10 minutes today) it is much less hassle. By accident I happened to catch some of the Select Committee investigation into the calamity of the 20th May timetable changes, and it seemed clear that much of the trouble is down to National Rail issues: a lack of electrification of some lines in other parts of the country, and short notice of the timetable details. So whilst I share the disgust of Govia's lack of drivers and...
    • In Other Subjects / Public Transport
    • Author Andrew Stedman
    • 09 Aug 2018 21:49
    • Last chance for Govia?
    • When you have a focus on the maximum extraction of cash from an organisation then other stakeholders, such as employees and customers, tend to suffer relatively. Good management would focus on motivating drivers – and making sure there was an adequate supply. Watching driver interaction with eg Anita at Platform 1 and frequent willingness to wait briefly for someone racing down the stairs suggests they are a decent lot. I really can’t imagine that managing a monopoly service back and forward between two fixed end points to a timetable and to everyone’s satisfaction, while making the odd and occasionally necessary in-flight fine-tuning adjustment to keep passengers moving, is beyond the ability of mankind.
    • In Other Subjects / Public Transport
    • Author Karl Brown
    • 09 Aug 2018 18:15
    • Last chance for Govia?
    • It would be good to be shot of Grayling and the whole sorry Thatcherite franchising system which has clearly failed. Allegedly, even Govia’s empire doesn’t make a profit out of its rail business. But pending the revolution, what can be done about the gritty business of day-to-day management of the local service? Great Northern has manifestly never solved the driver-supply problem which it claims it inherited from its dreadful predecessor. It has obviously never developed a spirit of public service and high morale. How otherwise can frequent staff shortages be explained? It would indeed be helpful to hear from someone who has experienced working for the company. The worn-out rolling stock and the shortcomings of Network Rail cannot make management any easier. If ever this line does get the promised new stock, is it imaginable that GN would be capable of making it run smoothly and to timetable?
    • In Other Subjects / Public Transport
    • Author Roger Blows
    • 09 Aug 2018 11:40
    • Last chance for Govia?
    • I too was on the train at Harringay last Friday. The train left Moorgate late and was full to capacity with people standing in all aisles. We waited 5 minutes at Harringay while the driver fixed a problem with the power system. He then announced he had been told to go directly to Hertford, so the train emptied onto the platform as you can see in the picture. I'll acknowledge that this type of action can be justified if a disadvantage to some means benefits to others because their trains can keep to schedule. But what happened next is important. By chance, my partner was on the following train. It was half full at Finsbury Park and was not scheduled to stop at Harringay or Hornsey. So a few minutes after the photo it sailed through Harringay without picking anyone up. The logic of this defies me as an extra stop at Harringay would hardly inconvenience anyone. Perhaps with the slow train out of the way the 'fast' train could make up time and arrive on schedule? But if instead of counting the number of trains arriving on time you consider the number of passengers arriving anywhere close to the scheduled time, Great Northern's action disadvantaged a great number of people.
    • In Other Subjects / Public Transport
    • Author Graham Bennett
    • 09 Aug 2018 09:37
    • Last chance for Govia?
    • I too got caught in that incident last Friday where the whole timetable collapsed from about 5pm onwards with the only explanation being that a train had broken down earlier that day. I was at Highbury & Islington waiting for a train to Winchmore Hill and we were told to go to Finsbury Park as trains would be starting from there via Kings X. Eventually I reached Hornsey station where our very late broken down train was 'rebooted' and just as it started working again the driver announced it would now be going non-stop to Hertford. This is the reason so many people were on the platform having not intended to go there. Fortunately another train arrived within 10 minutes but the total journey time from leaving Finsbury Park was over an hour and half. Apparently this has been going on for weeks with numerous unexplained cancellations. It is almost as if Govia want to get out of running the line. Prior to the change in timetable the line was pretty good. I suspect staff are demoralised and taking it out on their management. Be good to hear their side of the story as all we can do is stand and wait and wait and wait...
    • In Other Subjects / Public Transport
    • Author Neil Littman
    • 09 Aug 2018 09:33
    • Last chance for Govia?
    • High five to the early morning PG ticket office staff who sorted things covered in previous posting in a jiffy. So let’s have: More ticket office staff so they can actually be maned when they are scheduled to be; Enough train drivers to drive the trains that are timetabled to run; Enough trains to fill the scheduled (and promised 6 per hour) timetable; Effective management of the railways; and A lot less Chris Grayling. Personally I’m happy to pay a fare that’s equitable for all parties; doesn’t bounce around, and in particular vary depending on which channel you use (ticket prices for exactly the same journey can be different on line, via station machines and station ticket offices); where trains turn up when they are scheduled to; and get you to where you expect to go to at the time they state they will; while the fare paid doesn’t include a subsidy to public transport in random European countries, nor a whopping divided / bonus to certain controlling / managing parties when the service is patently substandard. Is that really too much to ask? And might this huge shortcoming, and equivalents in several other sectors, have anything to do with the relatively poor level...
    • In Other Subjects / Public Transport
    • Author Karl Brown
    • 04 Aug 2018 22:30
    • Last chance for Govia?
    • This is Harringay station at around 7pm on Friday, photographed by , who tweeted the following: I think "amateur" is as good a word as any to describe Govia's management of their franchise. Same goes for the Department for Transport's management of the entire rail network under the leadership of Chris Grayling. There was a time when our railways were run by professionals who had spent their entire careers with BR and knew how to run railways. In defence of rail privatisation, the usual mantra is "But what about the curled up sandwiches they sold?" There's no arguing with that, is there? After all, the quality of sandwiches is clearly more important than reliable train services...
    • In Other Subjects / Public Transport
    • Author Basil Clarke
    • 04 Aug 2018 14:02
    • Last chance for Govia?
    • Sadly the PG ticket machine “could not print all vouchers, please contact ticket office”. Walking inside I find a notice, PG ticket office closed due to …. but the gate monitor kindly suggested I try Winchmore Hill ticket office (by return train journey I wondered). Alternatively talk to the staff at Brighton. (On the basis the machine manged two out vouchers but only one return voucher we can both get there to ask the question but currently not all of us can get back). I sense a short film in the making, and probably having to buy a fresh ticket at Brighton before going through the trouble of claiming that fee back in some rather long, convoluted exercise. I read this week about some government minister outlining that our railways are the envy of Europe. It does seem we have slipped into a world where you can say absolutely whatever nonsense springs into your set narrative, and apparently believe it.
    • In Other Subjects / Public Transport
    • Author Karl Brown
    • 03 Aug 2018 15:49
    • Last chance for Govia?
    • That's a decent price - though you're right to be sceptical, Karl. 10.10 from PG to Moorgate just cancelled - so a 45 minute gap between trains on a busy route in middle of school holidays. I claim now every time this happens - which means I'm richer but stuck at home :)
    • In Other Subjects / Public Transport
    • Author Adrian Day
    • 03 Aug 2018 10:10
    • Last chance for Govia?
    • I’ve had some wild experiences in getting through the 57 million available ticket-option maze but this is one of the best being proposed by the national train web site: look at a day return to Brighton and buy tickets PG to Brighton, via Victoria (or indeed any available route) and its £16.40 each. Alternatively, get yourself to Victoria and buy a return from there to Brighton and it’ll cost £28.50 each. So that’s £12.10 extra or £24.20 for the pair of us. In addition there is then an Oyster cost of getting PG to Victoria and back, £9.80 I believe. That’s another £19.60 for the pair of us. So should I pay £32.80 or £76.60 for exactly the same journey on exactly the same trains? (I went for the former.) Now it’s to just hope they run at all and then ideally on time.
    • In Other Subjects / Public Transport
    • Author Karl Brown
    • 02 Aug 2018 18:04
    • Lodge Drive car park "parking fines" sca...
    • Warning from the Safer Neighbourhood team: Please don't listen to the males who are saying they are helping you to avoid a parking fine in Lodge Drive / Car Park. Two older victims last week, one for bad parking and the other to buy a ticket were assisted by two males who took their bank cards in the process. Previously victims have been asked to pay for fines at the cash point on Lodge Drive and their cards have been taken after they have inputted their PIN while they've been distracted. Please make elderly relatives and neighbours aware of the above. You would never be asked to pay for fines at cash machines or car parking machines.
    • In Other Subjects / Crime and Policing
    • Author PGC Webmaster
    • 01 Aug 2018 22:16

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