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    • Fox Lane low-traffic neighbourhood moves a step cl...
    • Mrs Waters makes a strong argument about the consequences of Quieter Neighbourhoods (QN), and certainly every attempt should be made to meet everyones needs. On the other hand Emma Maloney makes an excellent argument for the overall benefits of QN, and I would add 'again' that children lost most most from the car-age and for that reason alone it is time that the dominance of traffic in purely residential areas is brought to an end. I wish that we could solve every problem, but would draw attention to the fact that Germany was much the first country to create what we call QNs, and I have not come across any long term criticism of what they have done. Meanwhile choices have to made in the interest of the majority of the community whilst thought is given to how individual problems might be solved. And finally the Council's plan was/is to encourage use of main roads, public transport, cycling and walking. Over time many things will be different, and many difficulties resolved.
    • In Planning and Development / Quieter Neighbourhoods
    • Author David Hughes
    • Today 00:34
    • Fox Lane low-traffic neighbourhood moves a step cl...
    • The LTN looks beyond car drivers and considers the health and well being of all residents. The rate traffic everyhwere is increasing is unsustainable and it is time to reimagine our communities, our streets are not just strips of tarmac for cars. The LTN may mean that some journeys are slightly longer but it also means that many journeys are safer, such as those who finally feel confident to cycle and scoot, and pleasant enough to walk through and speak to neighbours. Crossing Fox Lane is far less hazardous to cross for the less nimble. There is much evidence to show that once LTNs bed in, traffic in the surrounding area dips, and local communities thrive. It is well worth giving the LTNs a chance then to feedback constructively.
    • In Planning and Development / Quieter Neighbourhoods
    • Author Emma Maloney
    • Yesterday 21:41
    • Fox Lane low-traffic neighbourhood moves a step cl...
    • Plenty of room at the end of my road for bin lorries to do a 3 point turn (as they do every day in hundreds of streets in Enfield - for example for 15 years plus in Broomfield Avenue). And it's much safer for the operatives now they don't have rat runners trying to squeeze by. Emergency services have been consulted on - and have approved - the design of the LTNs. Interestingly fire service response times have improved since 2005 in Walthamstow - home of of large LTN.
    • In Planning and Development / Quieter Neighbourhoods
    • Author Adrian Day
    • Yesterday 20:19
    • Fox Lane low-traffic neighbourhood moves a step cl...
    • * Since 2008, rat-running has DOUBLED on London's residential roads (and vehicles numbers on A roads has fallen slightly). * In 2007, there were 27m registered motor vehicles in the UK. There are now 38.3m. Something has to be done to encourage the high percentage of people who drive short distances in London when they could walk or cycle. Of course not everyone can do this so every home in an LTN is accessible by car, and if those who can walk/cycle do so the road will be clearer for those who can't. If you feel there should be design changes then suggest you complete the Council consultation. Plenty of people have objections to LTNs and similar changes - but not many have solutions.
    • In Planning and Development / Quieter Neighbourhoods
    • Author Adrian Day
    • Yesterday 19:59
    • Fox Lane low-traffic neighbourhood moves a step cl...
    • My elderly parents have now lost their independence due to these projects that have been implemented and are no longer able to drive to their doctors or anywhere else. They have been forced on to the busy North Circular Road, where they fear for their lives, so now they are housebound. No, they cannot cycle; before I too get a smart reply from someone here. Some elderly folks have health issues and are vulnerable therefore cannot access the streets on foot or bikes to get to their destination and I think the lack of consultation has missed all this out. We can all want our streets to be closed off to traffic, to want a peaceful quiet life, but you have to think of others less able or fortunate within our community. I have a young mother on my street with two Autistic children and their car is their lifeline, she cannot take them on bikes to places or by walking as their medical condition does not warrant for this. These kids have severe/complex needs and it is imperative that their mother can drive them to their doctors/hospital/community Centre without being stuck in traffic for long periods of time. A lot of traffic has been forced on to the main roads and half of our...
    • In Planning and Development / Quieter Neighbourhoods
    • Author Mrs B Waters
    • Yesterday 15:08
    • Fox Lane low-traffic neighbourhood moves a step cl...
    • Another aspect which hardly anyone has touched on is the effect of the QN scheme on emergency services and bin collections. I have seen footage of bin lorries reversing in the Lakes Area since last week. Legally they are only supposed to do this for a distance of 12 metres for obvious safety reasons. Now that is impossible. Sooner or later an accident will happen. Also in Bowes Park area ambulances also have to reverse adding time to their journeys. Nobody wants that to happen in an emergency. Also have seen footage on video of that. Is that a price worth paying?
    • In Planning and Development / Quieter Neighbourhoods
    • Author Neil Littman
    • 28 Sep 2020 17:36
    • Fox Lane low-traffic neighbourhood moves a step cl...
    • I don't have a clear view of the issues in this thread because I don't know the territory well enough to make a really firm view, so tonight I'd like to ask for some clarification about a couple of points: * one or two contributors apart most are a thinking about the issue purely from the view behind their steering wheel. Have they thought about the issues in terms of the needs of cyclists, pedestrians and children? * the proposals for change by the Council will have been vetted or designed by staff trained to assess whether the feasibility of the proposals could work, and presumably the answer was 'Yes.' As things stand the Council has my support. Our preoccupation with the needs of cars has gone too far, and children have lost too many of the freedoms I enjoyed in the mid 1950's.
    • In Planning and Development / Quieter Neighbourhoods
    • Author David Hughes
    • 24 Sep 2020 23:45
    • Fox Lane low-traffic neighbourhood moves a step cl...
    • The "other similar area that has been completed in the project", otherwise known as Bowes LTN is having as many problems and issues as Foxe Lane LTN, in case you are not aware. Huge numbers of residents have been fenced in with the only access to and from their homes via the very busy and dangerous North Circular Road which is just not acceptable from a health and safety aspect. Bowes school which sits on the A406 and already suffering from high levels of pollution is now much worse off. The displaced traffic forced on to this very busy stretch of the NCR is creating more pollution defeating the objective. Emergency vehicles are reversing down blocked roads in order to find their way to sick people increasing response times and putting lives at risk. The underpass planned for the A406 many years back and vetoed due to high costs should have gone ahead. These ill thought-out LTNs are a sticking plaster to a much wider problem and will come to fail. All under the guise of Covid 19 they are being rushed through. This is an ideology that will have casualties, it's just a matter of time, unfortunately.
    • In Planning and Development / Quieter Neighbourhoods
    • Author Carol Robson
    • 24 Sep 2020 21:50
    • PG songwriters pay tribute to those Working on the...
    • Interesting projects indeed Sue, catching me listening to Nick Drake a couple of years back I told Kate about attending a brill Barbican-based celebratory gig of ND’s musical legacy – a concert later screened on the BBC – to be told she curated it, as well as performing, and also Neill had taken on the task of learning Nick Drake’s tricky guitar style for the evening and was being him on stage. Top Trumped indeed! They like PG. Love this latest track.
    • In Other Subjects / Miscellaneous
    • Author Karl Brown
    • 24 Sep 2020 13:57
    • Fox Lane low-traffic neighbourhood moves a step cl...
    • A truly unbelievablely bad concept On a very basic level, closing these streets means a huge increase in traffic to the remaining routes, increased danger to those people living in the remaining routes. An increase in emissions as traffic will increase and bottlenecks develop, a greater use of fuel for everyone as they wait in traffic, something that we are trying to avoid now and for the future. There are already fall outs from these closures with residents of the closed roads now parking on Fox Lane leaving residents of Fox Lane with nowhere to park. I hope that in six months after this experiment has finished the council will see the real problems this action has caused and which out weigh the benefits the few
    • In Planning and Development / Quieter Neighbourhoods
    • Author Howard Toshman
    • 24 Sep 2020 10:05
    • Fox Lane low-traffic neighbourhood moves a step cl...
    • I posted on Next Door to see what the local reaction was to the enforcement of the scheme in Fox Lane and there were over 240 comments within a few days. The only one I want to repeat here is the following which shows the impact the scheme has had already on a local business ironically using electric vehicles: NB this was not sent by myself but the business owner. ----- Copy of email I sent to Cllr Barnes. Dear Councillor My family run a small local dog walking service in Enfield. We run 2 vans (was 4 before covid and we are struggling now to rebuild) and a high percentage of our customers live in and around The Lakes Estate. Our business model is that we collect 4 dogs at a time and take them to a local park - normally Trent to exercise them. As a company struggling to recover we are keeping careful records of time and costs. Please allow me to share some of them with you in relation to the last week. I hope you will find this useful at the consultation in October regarding your scheme. Our van that covers the Lakes Estate area drove on average an extra 19.6 miles per day this week and took on average 55 minutes extra to serve all of its customers. Those extra 19.6 miles...
    • In Planning and Development / Quieter Neighbourhoods
    • Author Neil Littman
    • 24 Sep 2020 08:51
    • Fox Lane low-traffic neighbourhood moves a step cl...
    • What strikes me about all this is that most contributors see the issue through a car (vehicle) windscreen, i.e. from the perspective of adults and especially adults who are drivers. Meanwhile quite a high proportion of the population are children whose development matters. What is best for them, and how does it stand against drivers needs? Personally I'm not really knowledgeable about the territory so I'm not qualified to form a sound opinion, but - as I have written in other contexts - there are well-qualified people who think that children have the suffered most from the car age and I wouldn't want to add to that. Children generally are less able to walk/cycle to school as I did from a very early age - in my case a few days after my fifth birthday - supervised by the big girls all of six/seven years old . Perhaps someone more knowledgeable about the needs of young children than me will comment because, whatever the decision, the needs of everyone should be taken into account. Finally, young and elderly people at the other end of life are not usually, or ever, the decision-makers. Quite a few thinkers have commented on that; we should do the best we can to meet...
    • In Planning and Development / Quieter Neighbourhoods
    • Author David Hughes
    • 23 Sep 2020 22:41
    • To get a Covid test in PG 'enter a Glasgow postcod...
    • The person in charge of the Covid testing system, Dido Harding, was previously head of the Talk Talk mobile phone network, which has come in for some criticism. Perhaps its users didn't realise that in order to phone someone on the network they first had to find a Serco employee to tell them which other person's number they needed to dial in order to get through to the person they wanted.
    • In Other Subjects / Health Services
    • Author Basil Clarke
    • 23 Sep 2020 22:31
    • Fox Lane low-traffic neighbourhood moves a step cl...
    • There are people in their late eighties who cycle, walk and use mobility aids - all of which would be a much safer trip from Pellipar to Broomfield Ave now the LTN is open (and avoids the nuisance of finding a parking space). But if, understandably, your Mother needs to go by cab then a few extra minutes is not much to ask. And imagine if each of those cyclists every 3 minutes was car..... Good luck with your campaign to open up Broomfield Avenue!
    • In Planning and Development / Quieter Neighbourhoods
    • Author Adrian Day
    • 21 Sep 2020 19:32
    • The stats show how car traffic has spilled over on...
    • Here's more evidence that people living on residential side streets are not imagining a big increase in traffic along their streets. I found this chart on Twitter, by the look of it derived from https://roadtraffic.dft.gov.uk. The chart I uploaded previously was for the whole country - so the urban roads that it referred was for all cities. This one is just for London. It shows traffic on A roads and B roads in London actually decreasing slightly. But on C roads and unclassified roads there has been a big increase - it looks in the order of 80 per cent, almost all of it in the last ten years, pretty much coinciding with the rise of satnav and more recently Waze and similar apps. So, as I surmised before, having filled main roads pretty much to capacity (and there is little or no possibility of increasing the capacity of London's main roads), drivers have increasingly taken to driving along side streets. As @GeorgeWeeks2014 has pointed out on Twitter, "Traffic is not like a liquid. Liquids have a fixed volume - this is how hydraulics work. Traffic is like a gas. It expands to fill the space available. Street network design needs to reflect this. Low Traffic Neighbourhoods are...
    • In Planning and Development / Quieter Neighbourhoods
    • Author Basil Clarke
    • 20 Sep 2020 00:48
    • Fox Lane low-traffic neighbourhood moves a step cl...
    • I'll be sure to tell my 88yo mother that she can cycle across the bridge to get to her Doctor's surgery on Broomfield Avenue (another ridiculous dead end btw) now rather than spend an additional 10 minutes by taxi, at additional cost. I'm sure she'll be thrilled. How lovely that the residents, who bought a house in the area knowing exactly what the traffic was like, can talk to each other in the street. What a relief for us all. According to reports, a cyclist uses the bike lane on Green Lanes every 3 minutes on average. And that was during the height of COVID. That is, in truth, a pathetic return on the millions wasted. Those bikes take up space on pavements that pedestrians can use (a bike takes up about the space of 4 pedestrians btw). The pavement is now not wide enough for a wheelchair where there is excess street furniture or bank queue barriers.
    • In Planning and Development / Quieter Neighbourhoods
    • Author Richard Carlowe
    • 19 Sep 2020 19:43
    • Fox Lane low-traffic neighbourhood moves a step cl...
    • The scheme is benefitting thousands of residents , Richard Carlowe. They can now sleep at night, safely cross their road and actually talk to each other in the street. Pellipar is not cut off from Fox Lane - anyone can walk or cycle across the bridge. Counters show thousands use the cycle lanes every week - and now it's safer to get to them thanks to the ltn, more will do so - and remember everyone who switches from car to bike leaves you more room for your car (which btw takes up the space of around 8 bikes!). Finally objectors keep moving the 'no entry' signs - putting lives at risk.
    • In Planning and Development / Quieter Neighbourhoods
    • Author Adrian Day
    • 19 Sep 2020 11:47
    • Fox Lane low-traffic neighbourhood moves a step cl...
    • Not all children can cycle or walk. Some are disabled and blocking off roads to get to doctors surgeries (which have been included in the project) and forcing traffic on to main roads and prolonging journeys has great impact on some families. Yes, we are the minority here, but due to some irresponsible motorist that speed, rat race the wider community is having to pay the price. The other day, I could not turn into the street where my doctors surgery is, so I had to go round which would have been added an extra 30 minutes, but as there was an accident it took three hours and it was not pleasant with a disabled child in the car. I am all for quieter neighborhoods but this is not the solution, there must be another way and there should be more consultation before it is permanent. In an ideal world, I would love to cycle everywhere or walk, but when you have a disabled child that cannot, you need a car.
    • In Planning and Development / Quieter Neighbourhoods
    • Author Mel Willow
    • 19 Sep 2020 11:16

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