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    • Fox Lane low-traffic neighbourhood moves a step closer
    • Another aspect which hardly anyone has touched on is the effect of the QN scheme on emergency services and bin collections. I have seen footage of bin lorries reversing in the Lakes Area since last week. Legally they are only supposed to do this for a distance of 12 metres for obvious safety reasons. Now that is impossible. Sooner or later an accident will happen. Also in Bowes Park area ambulances also have to reverse adding time to their journeys. Nobody wants that to happen in an emergency. Also have seen footage on video of that. Is that a price worth paying?
    • In Planning and Development / Quieter Neighbourhoods
    • Author Neil Littman
    • Yesterday 17:36
    • Fox Lane low-traffic neighbourhood moves a step closer
    • I don't have a clear view of the issues in this thread because I don't know the territory well enough to make a really firm view, so tonight I'd like to ask for some clarification about a couple of points: * one or two contributors apart most are a thinking about the issue purely from the view behind their steering wheel. Have they thought about the issues in terms of the needs of cyclists, pedestrians and children? * the proposals for change by the Council will have been vetted or designed by staff trained to assess whether the feasibility of the proposals could work, and presumably the answer was 'Yes.' As things stand the Council has my support. Our preoccupation with the needs of cars has gone too far, and children have lost too many of the freedoms I enjoyed in the mid 1950's.
    • In Planning and Development / Quieter Neighbourhoods
    • Author David Hughes
    • 24 Sep 2020 23:45
    • Fox Lane low-traffic neighbourhood moves a step closer
    • The "other similar area that has been completed in the project", otherwise known as Bowes LTN is having as many problems and issues as Foxe Lane LTN, in case you are not aware. Huge numbers of residents have been fenced in with the only access to and from their homes via the very busy and dangerous North Circular Road which is just not acceptable from a health and safety aspect. Bowes school which sits on the A406 and already suffering from high levels of pollution is now much worse off. The displaced traffic forced on to this very busy stretch of the NCR is creating more pollution defeating the objective. Emergency vehicles are reversing down blocked roads in order to find their way to sick people increasing response times and putting lives at risk. The underpass planned for the A406 many years back and vetoed due to high costs should have gone ahead. These ill thought-out LTNs are a sticking plaster to a much wider problem and will come to fail. All under the guise of Covid 19 they are being rushed through. This is an ideology that will have casualties, it's just a matter of time, unfortunately.
    • In Planning and Development / Quieter Neighbourhoods
    • Author Carol Robson
    • 24 Sep 2020 21:50
    • PG songwriters pay tribute to those Working on the Frontline
    • Interesting projects indeed Sue, catching me listening to Nick Drake a couple of years back I told Kate about attending a brill Barbican-based celebratory gig of ND’s musical legacy – a concert later screened on the BBC – to be told she curated it, as well as performing, and also Neill had taken on the task of learning Nick Drake’s tricky guitar style for the evening and was being him on stage. Top Trumped indeed! They like PG. Love this latest track.
    • In Other Subjects / Miscellaneous
    • Author Karl Brown
    • 24 Sep 2020 13:57
    • Fox Lane low-traffic neighbourhood moves a step closer
    • A truly unbelievablely bad concept On a very basic level, closing these streets means a huge increase in traffic to the remaining routes, increased danger to those people living in the remaining routes. An increase in emissions as traffic will increase and bottlenecks develop, a greater use of fuel for everyone as they wait in traffic, something that we are trying to avoid now and for the future. There are already fall outs from these closures with residents of the closed roads now parking on Fox Lane leaving residents of Fox Lane with nowhere to park. I hope that in six months after this experiment has finished the council will see the real problems this action has caused and which out weigh the benefits the few
    • In Planning and Development / Quieter Neighbourhoods
    • Author Howard Toshman
    • 24 Sep 2020 10:05
    • Fox Lane low-traffic neighbourhood moves a step closer
    • I posted on Next Door to see what the local reaction was to the enforcement of the scheme in Fox Lane and there were over 240 comments within a few days. The only one I want to repeat here is the following which shows the impact the scheme has had already on a local business ironically using electric vehicles: NB this was not sent by myself but the business owner. ----- Copy of email I sent to Cllr Barnes. Dear Councillor My family run a small local dog walking service in Enfield. We run 2 vans (was 4 before covid and we are struggling now to rebuild) and a high percentage of our customers live in and around The Lakes Estate. Our business model is that we collect 4 dogs at a time and take them to a local park - normally Trent to exercise them. As a company struggling to recover we are keeping careful records of time and costs. Please allow me to share some of them with you in relation to the last week. I hope you will find this useful at the consultation in October regarding your scheme. Our van that covers the Lakes Estate area drove on average an extra 19.6 miles per day this week and took on average 55 minutes extra to serve all of its customers. Those extra 19.6 miles...
    • In Planning and Development / Quieter Neighbourhoods
    • Author Neil Littman
    • 24 Sep 2020 08:51
    • Fox Lane low-traffic neighbourhood moves a step closer
    • What strikes me about all this is that most contributors see the issue through a car (vehicle) windscreen, i.e. from the perspective of adults and especially adults who are drivers. Meanwhile quite a high proportion of the population are children whose development matters. What is best for them, and how does it stand against drivers needs? Personally I'm not really knowledgeable about the territory so I'm not qualified to form a sound opinion, but - as I have written in other contexts - there are well-qualified people who think that children have the suffered most from the car age and I wouldn't want to add to that. Children generally are less able to walk/cycle to school as I did from a very early age - in my case a few days after my fifth birthday - supervised by the big girls all of six/seven years old . Perhaps someone more knowledgeable about the needs of young children than me will comment because, whatever the decision, the needs of everyone should be taken into account. Finally, young and elderly people at the other end of life are not usually, or ever, the decision-makers. Quite a few thinkers have commented on that; we should do the best we can to meet...
    • In Planning and Development / Quieter Neighbourhoods
    • Author David Hughes
    • 23 Sep 2020 22:41
    • To get a Covid test in PG 'enter a Glasgow postcode'
    • The person in charge of the Covid testing system, Dido Harding, was previously head of the Talk Talk mobile phone network, which has come in for some criticism. Perhaps its users didn't realise that in order to phone someone on the network they first had to find a Serco employee to tell them which other person's number they needed to dial in order to get through to the person they wanted.
    • In Other Subjects / Health Services
    • Author Basil Clarke
    • 23 Sep 2020 22:31
    • Fox Lane low-traffic neighbourhood moves a step closer
    • There are people in their late eighties who cycle, walk and use mobility aids - all of which would be a much safer trip from Pellipar to Broomfield Ave now the LTN is open (and avoids the nuisance of finding a parking space). But if, understandably, your Mother needs to go by cab then a few extra minutes is not much to ask. And imagine if each of those cyclists every 3 minutes was car..... Good luck with your campaign to open up Broomfield Avenue!
    • In Planning and Development / Quieter Neighbourhoods
    • Author Adrian Day
    • 21 Sep 2020 19:32
    • The stats show how car traffic has spilled over onto side roads
    • Here's more evidence that people living on residential side streets are not imagining a big increase in traffic along their streets. I found this chart on Twitter, by the look of it derived from https://roadtraffic.dft.gov.uk. The chart I uploaded previously was for the whole country - so the urban roads that it referred was for all cities. This one is just for London. It shows traffic on A roads and B roads in London actually decreasing slightly. But on C roads and unclassified roads there has been a big increase - it looks in the order of 80 per cent, almost all of it in the last ten years, pretty much coinciding with the rise of satnav and more recently Waze and similar apps. So, as I surmised before, having filled main roads pretty much to capacity (and there is little or no possibility of increasing the capacity of London's main roads), drivers have increasingly taken to driving along side streets. As @GeorgeWeeks2014 has pointed out on Twitter, "Traffic is not like a liquid. Liquids have a fixed volume - this is how hydraulics work. Traffic is like a gas. It expands to fill the space available. Street network design needs to reflect this. Low Traffic Neighbourhoods are...
    • In Planning and Development / Quieter Neighbourhoods
    • Author Basil Clarke
    • 20 Sep 2020 00:48
    • Fox Lane low-traffic neighbourhood moves a step closer
    • I'll be sure to tell my 88yo mother that she can cycle across the bridge to get to her Doctor's surgery on Broomfield Avenue (another ridiculous dead end btw) now rather than spend an additional 10 minutes by taxi, at additional cost. I'm sure she'll be thrilled. How lovely that the residents, who bought a house in the area knowing exactly what the traffic was like, can talk to each other in the street. What a relief for us all. According to reports, a cyclist uses the bike lane on Green Lanes every 3 minutes on average. And that was during the height of COVID. That is, in truth, a pathetic return on the millions wasted. Those bikes take up space on pavements that pedestrians can use (a bike takes up about the space of 4 pedestrians btw). The pavement is now not wide enough for a wheelchair where there is excess street furniture or bank queue barriers.
    • In Planning and Development / Quieter Neighbourhoods
    • Author Richard Carlowe
    • 19 Sep 2020 19:43
    • Fox Lane low-traffic neighbourhood moves a step closer
    • The scheme is benefitting thousands of residents , Richard Carlowe. They can now sleep at night, safely cross their road and actually talk to each other in the street. Pellipar is not cut off from Fox Lane - anyone can walk or cycle across the bridge. Counters show thousands use the cycle lanes every week - and now it's safer to get to them thanks to the ltn, more will do so - and remember everyone who switches from car to bike leaves you more room for your car (which btw takes up the space of around 8 bikes!). Finally objectors keep moving the 'no entry' signs - putting lives at risk.
    • In Planning and Development / Quieter Neighbourhoods
    • Author Adrian Day
    • 19 Sep 2020 11:47
    • Fox Lane low-traffic neighbourhood moves a step closer
    • Not all children can cycle or walk. Some are disabled and blocking off roads to get to doctors surgeries (which have been included in the project) and forcing traffic on to main roads and prolonging journeys has great impact on some families. Yes, we are the minority here, but due to some irresponsible motorist that speed, rat race the wider community is having to pay the price. The other day, I could not turn into the street where my doctors surgery is, so I had to go round which would have been added an extra 30 minutes, but as there was an accident it took three hours and it was not pleasant with a disabled child in the car. I am all for quieter neighborhoods but this is not the solution, there must be another way and there should be more consultation before it is permanent. In an ideal world, I would love to cycle everywhere or walk, but when you have a disabled child that cannot, you need a car.
    • In Planning and Development / Quieter Neighbourhoods
    • Author Mel Willow
    • 19 Sep 2020 11:16
    • Fox Lane low-traffic neighbourhood moves a step closer
    • Since 2016 the University of Westminster has been analysing the impacts from traffic intervention measures across London. Data on this longitudinal study for 2020 has just been sought but findings for the 2016-2019 period is now available. I've included links so readers can delve as deep as they wish but headline summaries are positive: where there have been interventions there is more walking, more cycling, fewer cars purchased and less car use, with increasing trends over time in addition. Early days and as the research indicates, this is not a holistic catch all of every cause / effect but is strong enough to conclude desired outcomes are being achieved from the development of traffic interventions, such as LTN’s. http://rachelaldred.org/research/low-traffic-neighbourhoods-evidence/ https://transportfindings.org/article/17128-low-traffic-neighbourhoods-car-use-and-active-travel-evidence-from-the-people-and-places-survey-of-outer-london-active-travel-interventions
    • In Planning and Development / Quieter Neighbourhoods
    • Author Karl Brown
    • 19 Sep 2020 07:24
    • Fox Lane low-traffic neighbourhood moves a step closer
    • Big shout out to the those who added 10 minutes to my emergency journey to see my Mum in her assisted living home in Pellipar Close which has been cut off from the rest of Fox Lane Big shout out to those whose almost unused bike lane on Green Lanes means that a bus in either direction blocks the road entirely causing huge congestion. Big shout out to the person who has closed Fox Lane from Green Lanes but hasn't bothered to put any Dead End signs up so p'ed off motorists are forced to turn round in Pellipar Close, blocking ambulances and endangering elderly residents out walking This scheme needs to end NOW
    • In Planning and Development / Quieter Neighbourhoods
    • Author Richard Carlowe
    • 18 Sep 2020 15:05
    • Fox Lane low-traffic neighbourhood moves a step closer
    • We park roughly half a mile from my son's school and walk the rest of the way. My child now gets to enjoy breathing the fumes of all those idling cars on all the routes available (there are three) to get to his school. Once outside the school we are met with almost standstill traffic. Close the roads if you must but think about the implications fully and understand the real impact. The island in Southgate is not fit for purpose as a main through route. Reduction in car travel should come from the industry not requiring staff to come into offices but work from home where possible. Industrialists have made and will make their billions while us mere ants scurry, making limited contributions through regular personal sacrifice.
    • In Planning and Development / Quieter Neighbourhoods
    • Author Tarnjit Dhesi
    • 17 Sep 2020 16:26
    • Fox Lane low-traffic neighbourhood moves a step closer
    • Well having had a few days of continuous stream of cars, lorries and vans pouring endlessly through Oakfield Road, Norman Way and Greenway, I am now at breaking point. Norman Way, which is perhaps one of the narrowest roads on the area has cars speeding ridiculously screeching round the bend onto Greenway. A fatality will surely happen. Norman Way was a exceptionally qieit road and now a major thoroughfare. Journey time from home to get anywhere has added 10 mins and to get to head down waterfall road by car is now an additional 1.5miles. I have to say the whole thing is ridiculous and rat running could have been solved by installing ANPR allowing residents unfettered access. Yet another hairbrained scheme!!
    • In Planning and Development / Quieter Neighbourhoods
    • Author Brian Conn
    • 17 Sep 2020 07:44

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