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There are 22 designated Conservation Areas within the London Borough of Enfield, several of which are located in or adjacent to Palmers Green - in particular, the Lakes Estate Conservation Area, located on both sides of Alderman's Hill

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One of the glories of Palmers Green are its streets of Edwardian houses, and one of the principal glories of those houses is its Edwardian woodwork, used in doors, windows and other features.  But what to do if you live in an Edwardian house but the windows need replacing or refurbishing either because they're in poor condition or because you want to keep warmth in and drafts and road noise out?

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Replacement windows on the Lakes Estate

The Friends of the Lakes Estate Conservation Area have recently issued a guide with advice on these issues.  Though it's intended primarily for people living in the conservation area, who have particular legal obligations, there are many more owners of Edwardian houses in Palmers Green who are keen to maintain original features but need advice on what to do and where to go.

The new guide is available on the Friends of the Lakes Estate pages of this website, alongside an earlier publication with advice on improving and renovating front gardens.

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David Eden posted a reply #3964 12 Jul 2018 11:34
Ayrton Bespoke located in Crouch End have done numerous properties in the Lakes with new wooden frame box-sash windows completely indiscernible from originals despite being techically double glazed - you can't tell other than under microscope or by the freshness of the woodwork.

Always pass the Enfield planners as the designs are like for like and I'm aware of a few that have been done without such rigmarole and have never been challenged as they're so perfect.

As long as they're wooden frame box sash and same styling/design, there should be no impediment for such positive investments and upgrades.
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Adrian Day posted a reply #3970 13 Jul 2018 16:14
Agreed. I have Ayrton windows and they are a perfect replica of the originals. Happy to show anyone on the Estate looking for replacements.

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enfield society news coverThe Enfield Society have published their quarterly newsletter for Spring 2018, and as always it's packed with interesting articles and news covering conservation matters and local history throughout Enfield borough.

To list just some of the articles:

  • Enfield's award-winning new council housing in Ponders End and Enfield Wash
  • The Local Heritage List for Enfield (to be read in conjunction with this earlier report on PGC)
  • Blocking of access to the historic Clarendon Arch
  • Planting trees in Enfield
  • New publications
  • Photos and text about the history of trams and underground stations in Enfield
  • Enfield Market Royal Charter anniversary
  • The Lakes Estate
  • War memorial conservation training
  • A long list of events and walks

The newsletter is available online, but if you join the Enfield Society you receive it in hard copy.  Membership is only £5 a year and you can pay online using PayPal or online banking.

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broomfield park remembrance garden councillorsBambos Charalambous MP, Deputy Mayor of Enfield and local councillors and representatives from WMT, Mitre Construction and organisers from Friends of Broomfield Park

The Garden of Remembrance in Broomfield Park which was opened in 1929 and contains a memorial temple dedicated to those who died in the first and second world wars has been extensively restored. The Friends of Broomfield Park would like to thank the War Memorials Trust which provided a generous grant that funded the restoration work.

The work was carried out during the last 6 months of 2017 and covered the following areas:

  • Repairs to the roof of the memorial temple to make it watertight.
  • Relaying the paved area and steps in front of the memorial temple.
  • Installation of three new stained glass windows replicating the original design
  • Repairs to the cairn of stones (each stone representing a life lost in World War 1)
  • Repairs to the pond and installation of a new plinth, bowl and fountain.
  • A new bird bath (replicating the original design) for the empty plinth.
  • Repointing and replacement of bricks in the surrounding walls of the Garden.
  • Provision of hand rails for the disabled next to the steps in the Garden.

Most of the work was completed in time for the Friends’ annual Remembrance Service which was held on November 10th, led by Rev. Chrichton Limbert, vicar of Christ Church, and addressed by Bambos Chraralambous, MP for Southgate, and  Cllr Doris Jiagge, the Deputy Mayor of Enfield and attended by local schools.

The Stained Glass windows

The original stained glass windows had been missing for several years and been filled in with three red metal panels. The design of the new windows was based on original photos taken from a film about Broomfield Park in the 1950s. The windows were originally designed to represent Fortitude (LHS), Sacrifice (M), and Victory (RHS). The inscription above the windows states ‘’At the going down of the sun and in the morning we will remember them’’ ( from Laurence Binyon’s poem, ‘For the Fallen’).

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Friends of Alexandra Palace Theatre have been publishing videos about the restoration work.  There are three introductory films (the first is number 2 for some reason)...

 

...and a new film showing progress to date.

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David Eden posted a reply #3426 13 Dec 2017 10:32
Amazing. Thanks for posting. Cannot wait to see completed.
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John Phillips posted a reply #3430 14 Dec 2017 11:33
Agreed! Fascinating films. I have been intrigued since I heard it described as Muswell Hill's 'lost' theatre which nobody seemed to know about. How can you lose a 1,500 seat theatre? Says something about the overall scale of Ally Pally.

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local list coverThe Local List was published jointly by Enfield Council and the Enfield SocietyHard work and foot slogging put in by teams of volunteers has been rewarded by finalisation and publication of a new heritage list covering the entire London Borough of Enfield.

The Enfield Local Heritage List was published last week by the council's Heritage Officer, but the organisation which took the lead in drawing up the list was the Enfield Society, aided by the Enfield Conservation Advisory Group, Enfield Local History and other local groups, plus the national organisation Historic England. The list contains buildings, archaeological sites, landmarks and designed landscapes that have been identified as having local heritage interest, are important to the community and have a positive benefit to Enfield. 

geograph 4366823 by Paul BryanOne of several pubs in the Local List, the Woodman was built around 1727, originally as two rustic small cottages.
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Local Listing does not provide the same degree of protection of built environment that the better known Grade I and Grade II Statutory Listings do (see the statutory listings here), but the fact that a local asset is listed counts as material consideration when deciding on planning applications.  This is what Historic England say about Local Listing:

"Local heritage listing is a means for a community and a local planning authority to identify heritage assets that are valued as distinctive elements of the local historic environment. It provides clarity on the location of assets and what it is about them that is significant, helping to ensure that strategic local planning properly takes account of the desirability of their conservation. Sometimes it may also help identify overlooked assets of high significance, which may warrant consideration for designation at the national level, too. The process of preparing a local heritage list not only allows communities to identify local heritage that they would like recognised and protected, but it is also an opportunity for local authorities and communities to work in partnership. Creating a local heritage list also helps to improve access to clear, comprehensive and current information about the historic environment at the local level through resources such as Historic Environment Records (HERs) which can speed up the planning process."

There are around 250 locally listed assets whose details are summarised in the new publication.  Not all are buildings: there are the historic fingerposts, such as the one at Palmers Green Triangle (currently fingerless, but not for much longer) and rare Edward VIII post boxes.  Most are quite old, but some were built well within living memory, for example the water tower near Trent Park, which dates from 1968.

Reading through the list you can learn more about local history and be prompted to visit streets in the borough that you've never been to before.

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Ahead of a speech in London on Tuesday 3rd October to an audience of heritage professionals, Ian Harvey, Executive Director of Civic Voice, has called for an end to the continued cutting of local conservation officers in local government and launched a survey to investigate the impact. The survey can be filled in via surveymonkey.co.uk/r/GYMZLC2

Research by Historic England and the IHBC shows that one in five local authorities now do not have their own conservation officer. Many authorities, at best, have limited part- time advice. Civic Voice says that the scale of the local government cutbacks means that we really must question the capacity of many local authorities to cope with even their statutory conservation duties.

As the nation celebrates 50 years to the day that Stamford, Lincolnshire was designated as a Conservation Area under the Civic Amenities Act 1967 Ian Harvey said:

"The conclusion is simple; fewer staff providing advice to local authorities is threatening the future of our historic environment. As we celebrate 28th September 2017 and 50 years to the day that Stamford became the first conservation area, this is wrong. With conservation staff numbers being so hard hit by cuts, we have to ask how councils are coping with their duties to manage the historic environment.

“In order to conserve and enhance the historic environment local authorities need sufficient resources to manage their statutory obligations. We are calling on national government to ensure that any review of the National Planning Policy Framework makes it clear that local planning authorities should ensure they have access to sufficient in-house resources, including suitably qualified in-house staff to advise on matters of conservation policy, to ensure that works are carried out as approved and enforcement can be undertaken. Our new publication in partnership with IHBC explains the importance of conservation skills in further detail.

Civic Voice is writing to the Housing Minister and Heritage Minister, local planning authorities and all MPs with the new publication “Conservation Professional Practice Principles” demonstrating the importance of the need for in house conservation skills.

Harvey added “Conservation Areas are as much a part of the fabric of this country as the Green Belt is in shaping our towns, cities and villages. London School of Economic Research shows that houses in conservation areas sell for a premium of 9% on average, after controlling for other factors. It shows the value of conservation areas. We now need to stand up and say 50 years ago, communities were calling for help in protecting the historic environment. Duncan Sandys and others responded with the Civic Amenities Act 1967. 50 years later, communities are again asking for help. We have a choice to make. We either realise that the historic environment and conservation areas add value to the character and identity of the country and resource it accordingly or future generations will ask “why did we let this happen” as we see more examples of our historic environment seeing death by a thousand cuts. The civic movement is ready to hear that call".

Civic Voice is using the 50th anniversary to also launch the full programme of workshops and activities for the Civic Voice Annual Convention in Wakefield on 20/21 October. The workshops, walks, talks and speakers will highlight specific lessons to showcase innovative responses to demonstrate how communities are filling the role of local authorities. Speakers for the conference include Laura Sandys, Vice-President of Civic Voice; Trevor Mitchell, Historic England Regional Director; The Deal Society and The Ilkley Society who will all be sharing thoughts on how they are making the case for conservation.

Source: Civic Voice website

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David Eden posted a reply #3234 04 Oct 2017 12:26
They should provide them through better funding - higher council taxes in areas that have requested more heavy handed conservation assessment (i.e. conservation areas).

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Following three public consultations and discussions with Enfield planning officers, the planning application for the redevelopment of the former Middlesex University campus in Trent Park will go before the Planning Committee on Tuesday 18th July.

Berkeley Homes are applying to refurbish the mansion and some other historic buildings, demolish most of the more recent former university buildings and create a total of 262 residential units.

A notable inclusion in the plans is the reservation of 980 square metres on the ground floor and basement of the mansion to be used as a museum and cafe.  This represents a success for the Save Trent Park and Trent Park Museum campaigns, one of whose aims has been the creation of the museum, which would celebrate both the mansion's aristocratic past (in particular, its occupation by the Sasoon family) and its use during World War II for a top secret intelligence gathering operation.

The planning meeting is open to the public (7.30pm at the Civic Centre in Silver Street, Enfield Town). The Trent Park Museum Trust are encouraging members of the public to attend to show their support for the museum project.  They are also asking people to contact members of the planning committee to show support for the museum.

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David Eden posted a reply #3096 19 Jul 2017 12:01
Planning successfully achieved, including for a new museum housed in a restored mansion house building.

Wonderful news. Well done Berkeley Homes and also EBC for not repeating previous mistakes!!
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PGC Webmaster posted a reply #3097 19 Jul 2017 23:35
The Trent Park Museum Trust is expecting the museum to open in 2020/21, but will have to raise funds before then.

According to one report, the planning permission granted by Enfield Council will have to be ratified by the Mayor of London.
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David Eden posted a reply #3102 20 Jul 2017 10:25
Green Belt means it needs sign off but very unlikely to be anything more than a rubber stamps. Mayor has already conducted and signed off a financial viability assessment:

www.london.gov....assessment
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Colin Younger posted a reply #3105 22 Jul 2017 21:22
What was very striking about the papers which the Planning Committee considered was how much of the crucial detail was still not settled. These "details" were left to be settled between the planners and the applicants, by conditions to be applied after Committee approval.

I wonder how much of this will be made public? My expectation is that we won't find out until the buildings are completed. The other trick is to look for applications for so called "non-material" amendments to the approved plans which can have dramatic effects on the appearance of buildings and which are not easy to keep track of. I'm not even sure whether they are advertised for public comment.

Huge effort goes in to consultation and scrutiny of the main application, what happens later when the fuss dies way is another matter.
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David Eden posted a reply #3118 24 Jul 2017 12:12
What sort of "details" exactly?
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Colin Younger posted a reply #3119 24 Jul 2017 12:54
There are dozens of references in the paper submitted to the Planing Committee to the need for conditions and conditions yet to be agreed. Pages 50-59 summarise these. Not all are of equal significance, but the number of things still to be agreed is striking. These concern almost every aspect of the plan and its execution.
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David Eden posted a reply #3120 24 Jul 2017 13:40
Some actual examples would help inform the discussion, as in are we talking about something as trivial as what colour the doors will be stained, or what type of grass will be used on the lawns, or colour gravel on the new walkways etc??
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David Eden posted a reply #3121 24 Jul 2017 14:43
In case anyone wants the have a look:

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Several hundred documents there, a lot of which are an interesting read. Huge improvement from what we have now, and would otherwise be left with, and better than its degenerating University use also (Enfield don't like you pointing out the Uni would still be there if not for EBC planning committee failings....).

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lakes estate housesA message from the Friends of the Lakes Estate Conservation Area

lakes estate conservation area appraisal coverThe character appraisal for the conservation area was reviewed in  2015Do you live in the Lakes Estate Conservation Area? Are you interested in helping preserve its character?

We are a group of residents who assist Council officers in safeguarding the Estate's unique character as described in the Conservation Area Appraisal.

One of the roles of the group is to comment on planning applications in the area. Another role is in sharing suggestions on how residents can modernise their homes whilst also keeping the character of the area.

The Friends are also represented on the Enfield-wide Conservation Advisory Group giving us a voice in wider conservation and heritage issues.

We are looking for new Friends to sign up. There is no formal organisation so, depending on your time, interest and expertise you can express your general support through to advising on design and planning issues. We are also looking for one Friend to help as the coordinator.

If you are interested in being a Friend, please contact .

You can find out more about the Lakes Estate Conservation Area at: Find out more about the Lakes Estate Conservation Area.

 

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remembrance garden in broomfield parkThe Friends of Broomfield Park and Enfield Council have recently been successful in securing £64,000 of funding from the War Memorials Trust. As part of the proposed project it is intended to restore the Stained Glass windows that were once set in the back three recesses of the Memorial Temple.

We are now asking if anyone out there may have taken photographs of the memorial many years ago showing the design on the original stained glass before the three red fillers were installed. If you have any photos can you please email copies to .

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barnet physic well houseThe future of a historic well in Barnet, with a Samuel Pepys association, is looking more assured thanks to a collaborative project between Barnet Museum, Historic England and the Heritage of London Trust.

Barnet Physic Well, situated near Barnet Hospital on land that was once Barnet Common, was dug in the 17th century to provide a source of chalybeate spring water, which supposedly had healing properties.  The mock tudor wellhouse, which dates from 1937, is a Grade II listed building but is in a serious state of disrepair.

More more details, see the Barnet Society website.

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southgate village gates after restorationLocal volunteer Darius Hazelwood Horner, a member of the Southgate Green Association, has restored the Southgate Village Gates to their former glory.

Southgate originated as the "south gate" to Enfield Chase, the King's Hnting grounds.

A timber lynch gate marks the southern entrance to Southgate.

The Gates stand at the corner of Cannon Hill and Aldermans Hill N14 and had fallen into a state of disrepair.

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Colin Younger posted a reply #2833 26 Feb 2017 23:53
These ”village gates” are something of a mystery. According to Alan Dumayne in his “Once upon a time in Palmers Green”, they were erected in 1953 by Southgate Council as a token after the original gates to Broomfield Park were inexplicably demolished.

However, the Enfield Local Studies unit has this photo dated as about 1949 which shows through the Broomfield Park gates what looks suspiciously like these “village gates” on the north side of Aldermans Hill. where they now are! Even if the date is incorrect and if it is later than 1949, the gates and the wooden structure surely shouldn’t co-exist.



This stone and wrought iron gateway is threaded through local history. Again according to Alan Dumayne, in 1832 the Old Park estate north of Aldermans Hill then owned by Alderman Sir William Curtis was sold to John Donnithorne Taylor to add to his Grovelands estate. The Old Park mansion, Cullands Grove, was demolished and its gateway (see below) which was near to the Aldermans Hill/Old Park Road junction, became the entrance to the carriage drive to Grovelands House. Aldermans Hill is of course named after the same Alderman of the City of London and later Mayor, Sir William Curtis.



When the Grovelands estate was in turn broken up for sale in 1902 the gates were bought by a Councillor Cork and presented to the Council and used to erect the Broomfield Park Village Gates entrance. “Village” and “Gates” were inscribed on the left and right hand pillars respectively.

1908 postcard shows to the keen eye that the central and side gates were used in new pillars, which may also have used other material from the earlier entrance.




The large central gates were taken for salvage in World War Two, though the smaller side gates are shown in the 1949 image. What happened to these in 1953, isn’t known.

These photos come from the website “Enfield’s Past in Photos”
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Chrystalla Georgiou posted a reply #2853 08 Mar 2017 15:41
Whenever I am passing the Southgate Village Gates on foot I always sense something wonderfully well rooted in the areas history.

Well done Darius Hazelwood Hornor .

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southgate green christmas treeSouthgate Green's new Christmas Tree before installation of lights.  It will be officially inaugurated on 20th December

The Southgate Green Association (SGA) will today be singing in an impressive new "Christmas Tree" - an 18-foot Norwegian Spruce - with the help of the choir from neighbouring Christ Church, augmented by anyone else who would like to come along and join in.  The ceremony and carol singing will start at 6.30pm.

SGA was able to buy and plant the tree thanks to the generosity of a local resident, plus funds from the Council and some of the Association's own money.  SGA Chairman Chris Horner hopes that the tree will grow to a full 100 feet and be a focal point for Southgate for generations to come.

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PGC Webmaster posted a reply #2537 21 Dec 2016 15:42

The inauguration of the tree on Tuesday evening - a picture from the @ChristChurchN14 Twitter feed.
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PGC Webmaster posted a reply #2543 22 Dec 2016 19:58
Some more photos of the carols around the new Christmas tree, courtesy of Chris Horner.




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The minutes of the planning panel to discuss the redevelopment proposals for Trent Park mansion and former university campus are now available on the council website and include some useful information about the project.

The purpose of the meeting was to receive a briefing on the proposals, to provide local residents and other interested parties the opportunity to ask questions about the application and for the applicants, officers and Panel Members to listen to the reactions and comments. These views, and all the written representations made, will be taken into account when the application is determined by the Planning Committee. This was not a decision-making meeting. A decision on the application will be made by the full Planning Committee in January/February 2017.

trent park housingHousing types planned for the former university campus (taken from Volume 2 of the Planning Statement)

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Minutes of the planning panel meeting

Enfield Council planning applications database:  Search for 16/04324/FUL then click on All Documents.  The most interesting document are the four volumes in the Planning Statement

Berkeley Homes Trent Park website

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The owners of Osidge (previously the site of the Thomas Lipton Memorial Home) have submitted a new planning application which they hope will overcome the criticisms of the previous application that were made by Barnet Council planning officers:

“Demolition of 3 no. existing buildings and conversion of Osidge House to Class C3 residential use providing 16 no. self-contained flats. Erection of 3-storey apartment building to provide 8 no. self-contained flats. Erection of 3 no. 3-storey townhouses and 3 no. 2-storey mews houses. Provision of private and communal amenity space,
refuse and cycle storage, off-street parking and associated hard and soft landscaping.”

The site is adjacent to Chase Side (Southgate), but lies just the other side of the Enfield borough boundary.

The future of the Osidge site is being followed by Southgate District Civic Trust's planning group.

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Enfield Council has sent out a "neighbour letter" with information about how to comment on Berkeley Homes' planning application for development of Trent Park mansion and the former university campus.

The Council letter also asks anyone wishing to attend the public Planning Panel Meeting to register in advance and provide details of interests/questions.

Read the Trent Park Neighbour Letter

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